if (ticker != null) {
      return ticker;
    }
    return recordsTime ? Ticker.systemTicker() : NULL_TICKER;
  }

  /**
   * Specifies a listener instance that caches should notify each time an entry is removed for any
   * {@linkplain RemovalCause reason}. Each cache created by this builder will invoke this listener
   * as part of the routine maintenance described in the class documentation above.
   *

    if (ticker != null) {
      return ticker;
    }
    return recordsTime ? Ticker.systemTicker() : NULL_TICKER;
  }

  /**
   * Specifies a listener instance that caches should notify each time an entry is removed for any
   * {@linkplain RemovalCause reason}. Each cache created by this builder will invoke this listener
   * as part of the routine maintenance described in the class documentation above.
   *